Guide RP - royal-flush

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 01:00 PM

Not including Teneral or Glow-Worm, by the looks.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:00 PM

also, they have tinkers, so we shouldn't expect those files to stay corrupted necessarily

tinkers are bullshit

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 01:00 PM

That's going to be fun when that happens.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:01 PM

So they have a full arc, and may be able to extract some info from the rest of the files, depending on how heavily corrupted. Even normal means can often restore most of a corrupted file, and they have tinkers.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:01 PM

they have deets on emma from worm's wiki, and, which could let them

well, they know gold morning was a thing now

https://worm.fandom.com/wiki/Kaiser kaiser's page for additional refrance

Kaiser

Kaiser | Worm Wiki | Fandom

lotta e88 identities leaked in that page

well. 'a lot' its like 2

but one is purity

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:03 PM

Honestly, knowing that Medhall is supplying E88 is a worth a few identities on its own

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:04 PM

that too

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:05 PM

Oh, Gestation is the first arc, including the parts with Emma and Sophia bullying Taylor. What fun.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:05 PM

yep.

i expect hot water

Malaki 21-Feb-21 01:08 PM

UA you might need to go into hiding

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:08 PM

In this situation, I doubt they'll actually imprison Sophia or Emma(assuming they find that Emma's a cape anyway). But there's going to be repercussions. I don't remember whether Gestation goes over Taylor's trigger, and I don't really wanna spend an hour reading it to find out. Either way Taylor's identity is fucked.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 01:09 PM

Taylor's trigger is first mentioned in arc 5, I think.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:09 PM

what was the plan for the day after the impromptu school day, i forget

because if it was to deal with the whole taylor situation, probably a good idea to do something

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 01:13 PM

We were going to do that, but we kept putting it off.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:13 PM

ok, no more delays, we need to get this done

if for no other reason than because gestation just dropped

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:14 PM

Did we have a plan? The plan was to give UA secret so Tattletale couldn't find out stuff, then try again with Hebert house Which we tried, and it turned out shit.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:15 PM

secret shirt? i guess?

maybe secret hat?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 01:15 PM

Better than nothing.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:15 PM

secret hat would actually be better

since brain and all that

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 01:15 PM

Uh, I have 12 charges.

Thought I'd put that out there.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:15 PM

your power's been permanently boosted? oh, thats fun

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:16 PM

Still? That was perma? Nice.

Oh yeah

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:16 PM

i guess that's what happens when you get charged

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 01:16 PM

The boost for me wasn't permanent.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:16 PM

rip

to clarify, you dont have the emerald golem yet?

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:18 PM

I wanted to point out that a lot of Knockoff's gear was based off Greek myth. Found out from the interlude.

- Eastern dragon helmet that shot fire from the horns. - Electric field amulet. - Metal breastplate. - Spring boots for increased manoeuvrability. - Flask of red healing liquid. - Ring that temporarily turns matter into gold. No Manton limit. - Normal marbles. - Crown that, when worn, broke and temporarily boosted the powers of every parahuman in the area. - Leather bag that shot powerful blasts of air. Boosted. - Tower shield that reflected attacks. Boosted. - Mask with an embedded crystal that could shoot lasers. Boosted. - Wax wings that let her fly. Boosted.

Gold touch ring is Midas, air bag is Odysseus's air bag thing, wax wings is Icarus tragedy Dunno what the others are based on though.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:19 PM

tower shield makes me think hercules

mask mightve been medusa?

it does make me think its less greek myth and more fantasy with that healing potion

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:21 PM

True

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:21 PM

also, eastern dragon, not western

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:21 PM

And I refuse to believe that spring boots were in greek myth

Malaki 21-Feb-21 01:21 PM

https://youtu.be/DZl4ampTAkI

Luke Correia

the oversimplification trend

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:22 PM

dangit we were having a perfectly good discussion here malaki

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:22 PM

#general

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 01:22 PM

Mhm

Also spring boots are of greek myth

Malaki 21-Feb-21 01:22 PM

Sorry my brain wasnt here but my eyes were

Lucky_Plucky21

Also spring boots are of greek myth

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:22 PM

They are? Dang. I got rekt instantly.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:23 PM

hermes boots

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:23 PM

hermes boots are winged sandals

but i guess it could be it anyway

Malaki 21-Feb-21 01:24 PM

Yeah but he doesnt literally have midas' hands (edited)

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:25 PM

i just had a thought

are natural triggers allowed or only bud based triggers

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:26 PM

who knows. ask system maybe?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:26 PM

/help

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:27 PM

(we gotta wait for pika lol)

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 01:50 PM

Help requested by user Old Secret.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:50 PM

can people trigger normally or are only buds allowed in the dome?

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 01:51 PM

Shard emulations are generated randomly in the absence of proper shard connections. This includes both budding emulation and newly generated shards.

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 01:52 PM

Also, I like the oversimplified logos.

What?

Server ↩️

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Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:52 PM

do shard emulations include conflict drives?

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 01:52 PM

Yea

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:52 PM

i wanna hear it from the system lucky

they're in charge

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 01:53 PM

Okay

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 01:53 PM

Shard emulations within the server are built to match shards in form and function.

Mostly.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:54 PM

why do you say 'mostly'?

what's different?

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 01:54 PM

Information may not be disclosed at present.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:55 PM

so, at a future point, then

this is theoretically info we could uncover

i guess that makes some sort of sense - the defiant thing seems mostly out of the realm of shard fuckery

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 01:56 PM

The information is locked due to it being related to classified information.

If you become aware of the classified information, or if the information is declassified, the information on shard emulations may be disclosed.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:56 PM

is everyone in the dome liable to become a parahuman?

or 'parahuman', airquotes

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 01:57 PM

also, most shards probably never give the rate of growth that CPP's does

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 01:58 PM

No more so than would otherwise be in Brockton Bay.

Old Secret ↩️

Reply to: is everyone in the dome liable to become a parahuman?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:58 PM

we have 3 new triggers within a week

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 01:58 PM

And at least some of them could be other inserts.

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 01:58 PM

Hmm

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:58 PM

actually, strike that, three new triggers that we know of

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 01:58 PM

How bad it can be?

Like worse case scenario here

Sociopaths?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 01:59 PM

Worst case scenario, 47 new parahumans and more on the way.

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 01:59 PM

Stable, reasonable

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 01:59 PM

im not sure emma would've had the requisite brain structures to trigger before this either

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 01:59 PM

Or are we talking also psychopath, sociopaths, bipolares

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:00 PM

Yes.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:00 PM

we're talking about a ton of people with the requisite trauma to trigger

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:00 PM

Well technically Emma did trigger

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 02:00 PM

Well thats bad

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:00 PM

So mental health is def not top priority for whoever triggers

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:00 PM

she didn't trigger during the thing that wont be named, that implies that anyone can trigger now

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:00 PM

Did overgrowth have a trigger worthy event before inserted?

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:01 PM

Not that I know of?

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:01 PM

Is overgrowth from that one story about the megalomaniac supes

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:01 PM

strange new world, everything disappeared before his eyes overgrowth is CPP's little brother

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:02 PM

Oh...thats fucked

pokienote | Kenny | Conserve BOT 21-Feb-21 02:02 PM

i was scared and trapped and tangled up before i became a ghost hero

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:02 PM

there's also the fact he'd probably have vaguely the right idea of how in danger he'd have been, hence the stranger thing

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:02 PM

ah no, i was just thinking it was the other way

oh wait it is

so people have to have a trigger event and then they get someone inserted into them (edited)

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:03 PM

Mine was right after I was inserted.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:03 PM

^^^ from the sound of it, kenny's was too

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:03 PM

But I still think it's suspicious that all the inserts we know of have powers.

pokienote | Kenny | Conserve BOT 21-Feb-21 02:03 PM

no it was right before i remembered being me

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:03 PM

i think inserts probably have a significantly lower trigger threshold

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:04 PM

Whenever i see kenny all i can think of is Kenpachi Zeraki

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:04 PM

To be fair, I seem to have a bud of QA and SS's shard.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:04 PM

yeah, true - so you'd be second gen

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:05 PM

So Kenny got trigger event before insert UA got insert, then trigger CPP is unknown because amnesia

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:05 PM

So it could just be a coincidence.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:05 PM

possibly

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:05 PM

And then we think that Kaiser could've been hijacked too.

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 02:05 PM

Nice

And bad

Because if so we can deal with him peacefully

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

idk

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

But if it’s one of equal nature we have a Kaiser with future knowledge

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

Ideally, he won't be a nazi anymore, but that's hardly guaranteed.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

Is the system enough of an asshole to see a person undergoing a trigger event, and then retroactively insert a person so that they go through it

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

im starting to come around to the idea that kaiser being an insert is a red herring the system is dangling in front of us

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

I trust kaizer as far as i can murder him (edited)

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

Also fair

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:06 PM

we don't know if kaiser is kaiser tho

that's the problem malaki

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:07 PM

Idgaf if he is or not

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:07 PM

what if it's mr rodgers or smth who got inserted into kaiser

then you're just the asshole who murdered mr rodgers

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:07 PM

That body has commited/incited crimes that i've wseen to many people get away with

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:08 PM

Point. We thought of this because we heard one speech from him where he didn't mention racist stuff either way. For all we know, it could just be normal Kaiser.

Old Secret ↩️

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Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:08 PM

its ok to hate the concept, but when dealing with people, boiling them down to concepts is straight up asking for something to regret

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:08 PM

What if you murder someone that's related to an insert in stoneforge or silverbell or TDA

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:08 PM

malaki doesnt care, they just said

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:08 PM

So the goal would be to get Mr Rodgers back into his own body, then? And after that, kill Kaiser.

Malaki ↩️

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Awake 21-Feb-21 02:09 PM

Yeah if it's not Kaiser it could be some innocent person stuck in a Kaiser-shaped shell

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:09 PM

Just because the mind is differennt doesnt mean the body is absoved of the crime. Insanity pleas dont get off scott free (edited)

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:09 PM

That is completely fuckin different?

It is a completely different person if he has an insert

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:10 PM

insanity pleads get thrown into an asylum if true, not given the death sentence, and this aint insanity. its bodyjacking, which is wildly different

its like that s9 event where bonesaw made everyone look like s9 members

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:10 PM

Yeah

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:10 PM

*Taps the sign*

Unready_Access | Emma ↩️

Reply to:

We're getting off-topic.

So, day plans.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:10 PM

Malaki's Nazi hatred transcends morality and enters the realm of the ironic bigot-racist

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:11 PM

^^^

anyways

dealing with taylor

secret beanie

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:11 PM

Fuck off with that bullshit

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:11 PM

How many charges do I put in the beanie?

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:11 PM

Minus secret?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:11 PM

3+however many secret has

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:11 PM

I was gunna say 4

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:12 PM

Either works.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:12 PM

oh point, 4 is where it starts getting supernatural

i think

i was sayin 3 cause half the charge pool would be left

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:12 PM

Iirc for the solar cells it was 5

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:12 PM

It's 5, I think.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:13 PM

crap.

in that case, i think we may want 5

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:13 PM

Started looking professional around then

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:13 PM

5 charges sounds good

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:13 PM

and all the rest into the diamond golem?

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:13 PM

Yeah

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:13 PM

Aight 5 charges, yeah

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:14 PM

Sounds good to me.

Diamond golem or emerald pre-golem?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:15 PM

hm. actually, emerald pre-golem

spending some time boosting that would be a good idea

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:15 PM

Emerald yeah

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:16 PM

Done.

Aaaand I've used up all my charges at the start of the day again.

I didn't even stop to consider that I might need them throughout the day lol

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:17 PM

do you think dauntless spends his charges throughout the day?

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:17 PM

Nope

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:17 PM

it'd be at either the beginning or the end

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:17 PM

Dauntless's charges are slow enough to be completely useless as a situational boost, though

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:18 PM

He probably would, since he gets a temporary bigger boost as well as the permanent smaller one.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:18 PM

Oh

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:18 PM

wait, really?

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:18 PM

Huh

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:18 PM

i need to check this out

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:18 PM

When he dumps the charge into an object, it is briefly supercharged for a few minutes before levelling off at a point better than before.

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:18 PM

Huh

Do you get the temporary boost or just the permanent?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:19 PM

as far as i can tell, only the permanent

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:19 PM

Ah

So it's more useful for preparations than in action anyway

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:19 PM

But the permanent boost is way faster than dauntless

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:20 PM

CPP is a bud it seems like, or a "bud"

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:20 PM

It is, but you boost an item five charges in the heat of a fight or situation and maybe it's not useful in the long run

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:20 PM

yeah we covered that a while ago

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:20 PM

Direct Wildbow quote:

"...boosting its efficacy for a short time (minutes) then leveling off at a point better than the last."

Awake

It is, but you boost an item five charges in the heat of a fight or situation and maybe it's not useful in the long run

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:20 PM

this

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:20 PM

Better to use them early on things you know are useful than waste them on an item that's specific to one situation

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

On the other hand, it could save my life in the moment.

Sunbro ↩️

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Awake 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

Point

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

i would like to point at the defiant situation

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

If I have a shield or something, five charges could be the difference between life and death.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept

On the other hand, it could save my life in the moment.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

+5 brick to the face gotta go classic enchanter of london

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

Ha!

randomperson44 ↩️

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Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

spending charges in the field can lead to wildly unpredictable effects that could very well have long term consequences

you could've been defiant forever

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:21 PM

Yeah

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:22 PM

Welp, that's an unsettling thought.

Old Secret ↩️

Reply to: you could've been defiant forever

Would my shard have let that happen, though? Or, uh, 'shard'?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:22 PM

maybe not, but it's an example

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:22 PM

Yes

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:22 PM

shards are not always nice

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:22 PM

you can fuck yourself with this stuff, like the emma concept imbuing thing

imagine if you did that while under fire from knockoff

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:23 PM

Shards dont care if u kill urself with ur powers data is data

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:23 PM

If I was just permenantly Defiant-ified, it couldn't get any more data from me.

vvvvvv

Malaki ↩️

Reply to: Shards dont care if u kill urself with ur powers data is data

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:23 PM

leet's shard would happily have him permanently transform into someone else who takes more risks we don't know what your shard wants from you

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:23 PM

'shard' in this case, in airquotes

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:23 PM

Just charges with no concepts are probably fine, from what we know.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:24 PM

im p sure real shards dont exist, which means the rules are more flexible

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:24 PM

They seem to just improve things and make them more useable.

Did Defiant even have my power? That's my main thought here.

Limina Idling | Hours

im p sure real shards dont exist, which means the rules are more flexible

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:24 PM

Not really? If you emulate a thing near perfectly that also means the rules are near perfectly what they were before.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:24 PM

If it was permanent, my shard could've been permanently disconnected.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:25 PM

im 99% sure the defiant thing couldnt happen with normal shards

not as a knock-off to dauntless

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:25 PM

What defiant thing?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:26 PM

Not even if the 'Defiant' was just extrapolated from Armsmaster's tech and CPP's memories?

Old Secret ↩️

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Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:26 PM

no, because that would probably require a lot more than 10 charges to accomplish

precog is expensive

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:26 PM

Wait was it about the knockout thing in the interlude?

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:26 PM

So you probably wouldn't have stayed Defiant. It doesn't change the fact that there could be mental effects that you no longer want to remove; in fact that's happened already, with UA. If you found a way accidentally imbue yourself with something (indirectly) it could be a huge problem.

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:26 PM

It's not like we talked for long enough to know if he's a fully functioning, fully en-memoried Defiant.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:26 PM

point

not like we couldn't tho

if you grab a trash can lid expecting to use it as a shield, then it just becomes a better trash can lid, you could very well get killed from expecting things it wouldn't give, too

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:27 PM

The card is recharged, we could always give it another shot.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:28 PM

thats an idea

then again, hair dye

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:28 PM

Could always just use it on a golem or something.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:28 PM

thats a better idea tbh

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:28 PM

Do we want confused and suspicious defiant in the middle of house tho? And will the Defiant retain previous continuity of consciousness with last usage, or does he restart every time?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:28 PM

Or on me.

We'd go somewhere else for this, of course.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:29 PM

golem might be a better idea

it won't potentially destroy the other golems if this cuts off your power

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:29 PM

There's an idea

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:29 PM

Can you imagine if that results in mini-defiant lol

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

we're getting kinda off topic tho

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

Oh my god that sounds adorable

randomperson44 ↩️

Reply to: Can you imagine if that results in mini-defiant lol

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

Defiant Mini-Me

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

So. Day plans.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

day plans

dealing with taylor

talking with defiant

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

Yeah

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

Which first?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

taylor

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

Taylor

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

Got it.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:30 PM

if we need defiant out again, its good to have him as a trump card

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:31 PM

I would like to point out that we have no idea where she even is.

We'd be visiting her house, and even then, her father might not be home.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:31 PM

it's worth the shot

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:32 PM

It's pretty early right now, maybe 5:30 in the morning, so we could probably get there before he leaves for work, assuming he didn't sleep there.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:32 PM

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/parahumans/images/3/3b/Brockton-bay-territories-arc201.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130518204012 also, here's a map

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:32 PM

Consider: the PRT just got her identity, as well as the identities of Taylor's bullies. If there's any time to run into the PRT at her house, today's the day.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:32 PM

Map might not be accurate

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:32 PM

Don't worry, I know where their house is.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:32 PM

that is a good point

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:32 PM

Wait the prt got her identity?

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 02:33 PM

I feel like I've read a post about how absolutely god-awful that map is.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:33 PM

however, if you can accurately say you're there to apologize for all the horribleness to the point it wouldnt trip armsmaster's lie detector

we got an interlude sunbro

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 02:33 PM

At least there's that.

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:33 PM

Oh fuck you're right

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:33 PM

( #pika-general )

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:33 PM

I didnt think of that

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:39 PM

anyways

it may be bad but its also something you could potentially cross reference with an actual brockton bay map

if you can honestly say you're there to help repair bridges burned or at least offer to cut ties, that might help with the prt issue

also, prt guys are probably not gonna come this early in the morning

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:41 PM

They might wait until they know for sure they can effectively catch her if she hasn't been caught yet

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:41 PM

yea, thats a thought

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:42 PM

Not like they can call in help from heroes outside the dome or dragon assumedly

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:42 PM

nope

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:42 PM

They gotta conserve numbers and not risk personnel or equipment damage

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:42 PM

exactly. and given they wanna play nice, confronting her in her civilian identity isnt necessarily an option

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:42 PM

Yeah

Plus. It shows their hand

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 02:43 PM

Mhm

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:43 PM

If they suddenly know Skitter's identity

Who's else do they know?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:43 PM

potentially all of worm

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:43 PM

Exactly

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:43 PM

including the wiki files

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:43 PM

It points all of the villains at the PRT

Which, in their current state

Wouldnt end well for them

Limina Idling | Hours

exactly. and given they wanna play nice, confronting her in her civilian identity isnt necessarily an option

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:44 PM

They might want to play nice anyway If they manage to get the rest uncorrupted they'll be able to see that Taylor legitimately intended to go undercover

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:44 PM

yea true

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:44 PM

That's true

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:44 PM

actually, thats in gestation yea?

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:44 PM

They get a very to-the-point view of her experiences

Limina Idling | Hours

actually, thats in gestation yea?

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:48 PM

no gestation ends after armsmaster leaving after lung fight i think

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:48 PM

Gestation 1.6 is the sixth and last non-interlude chapter of Gestation. Bug girl meets Armsmaster and they talk about the possible repercussions of a new hero taking down Lung, among other things. So Armsy takes the credit and Taylor heads home.

yep

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:49 PM

wow

So Armsy takes the credit and Taylor heads home.

I can feel the fanon and unprofessional wiki writers in this sentence.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:50 PM

it be that way

Malaki 21-Feb-21 02:50 PM

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 02:52 PM

Mhm

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:53 PM

So now they know she took down Lung

Not Armsmaster

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:53 PM

Yes. Though armsmaster might deny it. He's the one with the lie detector.

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:54 PM

Even if he denies it, if they find out everything set pre-dome happened that way

He's getting called out

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:54 PM

it'd also explain the tranq incident

a pro tinker's thoroughly researched and field-allowed tranquilizer malfunctioning is less plausible than 'he was drugged to the gills to begin with'

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:57 PM

Fits the cracks in the story

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:58 PM

Yeah. He wouldn't be able to keep it under wraps for very long, but I doubt he'll flat out admit it when first asked. We did see that they're taking it seriously enough to recall SS to base, so it's pretty likely that they'll believe everything enough to seriously verify it.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:58 PM

yee

incident at prt hq and all that (edited)

Awake 21-Feb-21 02:58 PM

Not only that they're seeing the shit she did to Taylor

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 02:59 PM

ye

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 02:59 PM

Not trigger event though, unless they get it uncorrupted So they only see the petty shit they came up with the few time she's at school

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:02 PM

Yeah, they don't have Dragon or similar who could easily uncorrupt it

So itll take time

It also means they dont have all the undersider identities

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:03 PM

coughs in armsmaster and kid win

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 03:04 PM

They don't have Dragon, but Armsmaster is quite proficient at coding The Endbringer warning was a collaborative effort between him and Dragon you know

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:04 PM

coughs in ordinary programmer

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:04 PM

Oh that's true

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:05 PM

Mhm

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:07 PM

So we have a ticking time-bomb just waiting to be decrypted.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:07 PM

yup

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:08 PM

Love that for us.

So. How the fuck did they get it?

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:08 PM

By being them

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:09 PM

that is how

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:11 PM

Server sent it to him?

/help What gives, Server?

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 03:11 PM

This was a deviation event.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:11 PM

Like a shard this system has no loyalty

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:12 PM

what caused it?

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 03:12 PM

given server's name, someone hacked it? Virus? Idk.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:13 PM

server may have details

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 03:14 PM

The deviation was caused by outside hacking attempts.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:14 PM

well, shit

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:15 PM

Unsuprised was bound to happen

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:15 PM

hackers are actively malevolent then

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:15 PM

Idk could that action be said to be malevolent?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:15 PM

as far as we're concerned anyways

one of the rules of worm isekai-ing is generally 'do something about the barnes situation'

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:18 PM

So, we're dealing with a possibly malevolent hacker. Great.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:18 PM

they'll prolly help taylor be a hero, if this isn't pure malevolence

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:18 PM

Malevolent towards the barnes it seems

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:18 PM

which means leaking shit to the prt

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:21 PM

Taps

Unready_Access | Emma ↩️

Reply to:

We're getting off-topic.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:21 PM

yeah

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:21 PM

Well, I'm ready to go.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:21 PM

Gimme a minute, I gotta find my shoes.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:21 PM

brace yourself for an emotionally draining morning

maybe have an energy drink

if ya got any

or just. anything refreshing ig

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:23 PM

Yall got a cucumber?

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:23 PM

I'll have a coffee.

Nah, mostly just apples. We've already eaten most of the perishables.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:23 PM

No seeds from any fruit/vegies either?

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:25 PM

Nope. And the shops are all out, too.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:25 PM

Crap

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:26 PM

We really should collect some seeds from the wild plants. Hopefully, some of those will work.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:26 PM

Hey does BB have any seed sharing programs?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:27 PM

theres half farmland

i dont think they'll be hurting too hard for food diversity

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:27 PM

We could look for seed sharing programs while we're out.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:27 PM

Pls do

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:27 PM

taylor first, no getting sidetracked, remember

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:28 PM

The city gardeners are gunna be a godsend

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:28 PM

Taylor, then seeds, then Defiant.

That's our plan.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:28 PM

Yup

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:28 PM

Well, I'm ready to go.

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:29 PM

Good. Grab your bicycle.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:29 PM

Aight godspeed

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:29 PM

...I feel like I should charge these bikes too, at some point.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:29 PM

you should make like

an actual google doc or smth

list of things to charge

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:29 PM

Or watever worm uses

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:30 PM

no, google doc

meta

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:30 PM

Oh

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:30 PM

Yeah, I should do that. I can add it to my notes doc.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:30 PM

Right

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:33 PM

...Oh. I see Taylor.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:33 PM

That's her?

She has a cute sundress.

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:34 PM

We're still a ways from her house.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:34 PM

welp. time to chat with her

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:34 PM

Fuck. Right.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:34 PM

deep breath

you can do this

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:35 PM

Inb4 we find out system inserted an arachnophobe in Taylor's place

But yeah, jokes aside, you got this

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:36 PM

"Emma. What do you want."

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:36 PM

"..."

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:37 PM

"Why are you making that face at me? Do you really expect me to pity you or something?"

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:37 PM

to offer something she's likely wanted - an apology at least, and an offer to cut ties

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:38 PM

"No. I don't deserve pity, and I know that just an apology wouldn't be enough by a long shot."

"I've had... a revelation, I guess."

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:38 PM

"A revelation."

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:39 PM

"I'm a terrible person. I know that now. It's not exactly news to anyone, but I know it now."

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:39 PM

Yay

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:40 PM

"Congratulations. So, what do you want with me, then?"

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:40 PM

"I just wanted to say that I'm officially cutting that shit out. No more bullying, no more harassment."

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:40 PM

Also no more interaction in general

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:41 PM

"So that's your game. You try to get my hopes up before shattering them as hard as you can."

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:41 PM

Actions speak louder

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:41 PM

Yesh

Yeah*

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:41 PM

Mhm

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:41 PM

she can record you admitting you did all the bullying

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:41 PM

Say just don’t drown yourself in paranoia

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:41 PM

that won't help, she'll do it anyways

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:42 PM

"How about I give you some collateral, then? I can tell you something that'll let you fuck me over if you want to."

"I can give a recorded admission of bullying, if you want one."

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:42 PM

Not the worst idea

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:42 PM

"On what camera?"

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:42 PM

Right. No power

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:42 PM

you got cell phones

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:43 PM

Phones and cameras die

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:43 PM

She doesn’t

She doesn’t have a cellphone

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:43 PM

Huh damn got us there huh

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:43 PM

"In whatever is practical, I guess. I could also just tell someone, anyone you like."

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:43 PM

"What. Do. You. Want."

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:44 PM

"To make up for my fuck-up."

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:44 PM

"You're pulling something. Don't bother trying to hide it."

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:44 PM

gdi

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:44 PM

Yeah kinda makes sense for her to react like this, it's uncharacteristic

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:45 PM

could let her know the whole parahuman thing, how people get powers, if you dont mind taking this converstion somewhere private

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:45 PM

She wont go

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:45 PM

traumatic events making people reevaluate their life choices is a thing

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:45 PM

"How would you like me to prove it, then?"

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:45 PM

Admitting you're a parahuman is collateral for sure

But dangerous

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:45 PM

its taylor

she wants to prove that shes better than you - she wont go after you

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:46 PM

Coil

And TT

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:46 PM

point.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:46 PM

No but tats will learn and thus so will coil

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:46 PM

Taylor isn't the problem

It's the dual timeline bond villain

And the Sherlock

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:46 PM

"Just stay away from me. I don't want anything else to do with you."

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

Fine by you

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

Agree to it and stick to it

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

it was the plan anyways

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

Yeah

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

"That's fine by me. I'll make sure the others stop bothering you, too."

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

Actions speak louder, so let them

Taylor BOT 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

"Goodbye, then. I hope I never see you again."

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:47 PM

Anyways seed sharing programs next

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 03:48 PM

"I hope you never have to see me again too."

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:48 PM

And she's gone.

Seed-sharing, yeah.

Winslow seems like a good bet, and I grabbed a bunch of apples to bring with us.

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:48 PM

Yay

And I hope you don’t see her either

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:49 PM

it'll also give UA a chance to make sure nobody goes after taylor

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:49 PM

Mhm

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:49 PM

Yeah.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:49 PM

Well, off to Winslow.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:49 PM

wonder if the overgrowth zone's expanded to there

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:50 PM

It's far enough away that it should be fine.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:50 PM

Jinxed it

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

The outside is damaged. It looks like there's been a fight.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

Fuck's Sake

cant have anything in this city

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

Mhm

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

Worse than Detroit

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

It’s Brockton

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

The marks don't look human, though. There's a lot of claw marks.

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

The place where Hope goes to die

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

oh great, so fucking hookwolf attacked or something

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

Undersiders?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

maybe lung or undersiders too yeah

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

Undersiders

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

Cant have shit in Brockton

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

Lung's gone.

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:51 PM

The big doggos maybe

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Bet someone stole the door too

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Well, I guess we'll just have to find out.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

i doubt undersiders tho, considering coil would need a reason to attack the place (edited)

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Food source

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Lots of new parahumans and a food source

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Well, at least the board game club is still here.

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Mhm

Thats good

Get something before they go away

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Even if Overgrowth is making food for everyone, controlling that would let Coil control the city more

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

Maths class is the info sharing class, so let's go there.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:52 PM

lots of new parahumans is a reason to not attack it its more likely a new parahuman who was doing things for shits and giggles

and it's not the only food source anyways

...hey kenny, do you think you could potentially wreck coil's base with enough plant growth

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

So. Good news, it wasn't a person. Bad news, it looks like the rats are still growing.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

oh fuck

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

Damm

pokienote | Kenny | Conserve BOT 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

i can try if its not too wet

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

I called it!

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

Good luck Kenny

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

Wait

Does that mean

Mega rats?

pokienote | Kenny | Conserve BOT 21-Feb-21 03:53 PM

dunno where it is though

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:54 PM

its underground somewhere, i remember something about a parking lot

i think it's in the downtown area

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:54 PM

No they are ROUS

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:54 PM

Princess Bride is great.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:54 PM

just be careful - echidna and all

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:54 PM

At a certain point they go from ROUS to Dark souls rats

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 03:55 PM

Sounds like the students were able to hold them off, but they scratched up the outside a bit.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:55 PM

i doubt coil's power can model us due to us being 100% outside of context

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:55 PM

Yeah, for now he cant

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:55 PM

but i cant be certain

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:55 PM

He can model on the weird plant growth being likely parahuman in nature

But not much more than that

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:56 PM

that means if he's using a secondary timeline to keep an eye on the base rn, which i wouldnt be surprised about, he wouldnt see the growth coming

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:56 PM

Mhm

pokienote | Kenny | Conserve BOT 21-Feb-21 03:56 PM

im scared to go underground and hit water

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:56 PM

point

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

Yeah

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

i guess just look for doors?

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

It isn’t over the aquifer

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

Might not wanna attack Coil yet?

pokienote | Kenny | Conserve BOT 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

theres a lot of doors in the city

Awake

Might not wanna attack Coil yet?

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

Fair

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

I get hes a threat but

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

we have to start taking action at some point

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

They're not ready for the fact he's got a mini-army

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:57 PM

...true

fuck

it was the rats anyways

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

Yeah, don't forget he has properly trained and equipped troops

Malaki 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

That and his minikaiju

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

Yeah

And countermeasures

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

so coil's not behind the attack on the school, no reason to go after him

id imagine a good chunk of the countermeasures are offline cause of the dome

online stuff and all that

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

If anything this is time for rodent hunting

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

yeah

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

Combat practice

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

not sure how much kenny can do in that regard tho

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:58 PM

Make some weapons and test them

Not sure either

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 03:59 PM

already got weapons

arclance and golems

Awake 21-Feb-21 03:59 PM

Right, the arclance

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:01 PM

rats aren't here, but i dont think we got costumes done either

so that's a thing for after defiant i guess

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:01 PM

Yup, we putting him in the emerald golem?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:01 PM

emerald golem hasn't been made

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:02 PM

Oh well when it is

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:02 PM

im not sure we're making it today either

last check we had, he was going in one of the golems tho

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:03 PM

Kk

Oh no word on seed sharers tho?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:07 PM

no, we were too busy talking about rats, coil, and remembering things

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:07 PM

Right right

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:15 PM

We have the 'get back on topic' sign for a reason.

Damn, there's no seed sharing thing.

I was able to get some orange seeds, since someone brought a whole lot of oranges in.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:17 PM

Nice, citrus fruit will help with penicilin

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:18 PM

Speaking of, we might want to make some sort of healing item.

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:18 PM

We might want to make a lot of things.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:19 PM

So much to do, not enough charges to do it

Also it shouldnt be a single use healing item

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:19 PM

C'est La Vie.

Yeah, permenant is better.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:20 PM

https://youtu.be/gN49W9siNok

TreeMentor

Grow Orange Seed Fast & Easy Way

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:21 PM

I think Kenny is probably the fast and easiest way, haha.

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:21 PM

Mhm

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:21 PM

So, that's Taylor and seeds.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:21 PM

Also, pick off all the fruit from the young orange tree so you can speed up the growth of the orange tree

Like pick then way b4 they are ripe

Anyways dauntless golem time?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:22 PM

There's been some of my friends around, so I told them to lay off Taylor. Yes, golem time.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:22 PM

Where should we go to test this?

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:23 PM

Someehere with minimal witnesses

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:23 PM

...Forgot to charge my costume. Dammit.

I'm just wondering which place would have minimal witnesses.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:24 PM

Ur house got a basement?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:24 PM

It does.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:24 PM

Try there, ur golems arent that big

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:25 PM

Might as well.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:25 PM

If you ever run into some lemons https://youtu.be/XC67v3q-m28

Techplant

How To Grow A LEMON TREE From A SEED ( 0-6 MONTHS UPDATES )

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:26 PM

Oh, Zoe's out. Nice!

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:27 PM

Lucky

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:27 PM

She did say she was planning to go to her job as well, since everyone else is out all day anyway.

It's why I didn't veto the basement idea.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:28 PM

Welp, it's now or never, I guess.

Unregistered BOT 21-Feb-21 04:29 PM

*Squeak?*

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 04:29 PM

"Sorry, bud, you're our lab rat for the day."

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:29 PM

Kek

Unregistered BOT 21-Feb-21 04:30 PM

*...Squeak!*

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 04:30 PM

At least it doesn't seem to mind.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:30 PM

Yay!

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:31 PM

Yay for humane experimentation! Card time it is.

Unregistered BOT 21-Feb-21 04:32 PM

*. . .*

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:32 PM

". . ."

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:32 PM

Neat it worked

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:32 PM

(the spaced out . . . always makes me nervous now) (ever since you used it a lot for mannequin reversion)

Pika 21-Feb-21 04:33 PM

(Lmao)

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:33 PM

I got a vid for if you run into some mango seeds

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:33 PM

Oh my god he's babey

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:33 PM

What happened

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:33 PM

Tiny boy

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:33 PM

wow it really is minifiant

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:33 PM

Aw cute~

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:34 PM

He's like. Tiny kiddie Defiant.

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:34 PM

Lmao

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:34 PM

Adorable

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:34 PM

He's also closer to toddler size than the golem's action figure size.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:35 PM

well the dude fought leviathan solo for a while I bet minifiant can still solo both of you

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:35 PM

So biological material matters?

If he's biggern

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:35 PM

Huh, so glad we used a small creature instead of say, one of the trees

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:35 PM

Oh, I don't doubt it.

randomperson44 ↩️

Reply to: well the dude fought leviathan solo for a while I bet minifiant can still solo both of you

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:36 PM

It could be a size limitation. Maybe there's only so much one thing can grow.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:36 PM

well, time to explain the situation, and get him somewhere comfy to sit

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:36 PM

Oh, what if he can only squeak!

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:36 PM

ask him what he remembers

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:36 PM

What do you remember various insulting squeaks

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 04:36 PM

"Hello?"

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:36 PM

if he remembers, he might already know since we left him right before we told him about action card thing

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

True

Time to interrogate

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

interrogate's a harsh word for this

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

"..."

*Squeak.*

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

fuck

pencil, paper

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

lol

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

Adorable, i love it

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

BABEY

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

Phone text to speech

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

wait. he might have a speaker system, and the squeaking could be size related

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:37 PM

My non-existant overies

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

malaki jinxed it so they could squeal over mini defiant

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

How fast did he revert last time How much time do you have before the card runs out

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

"Do you need a pen and paper?"

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

it was at least a few minutes

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

10 minutes?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

a minute per charge

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

Must be.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:38 PM

that also implies it's linear

so if you get him up to... quick maths. 1440 charges? he'd be up permanently

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:39 PM

*Squeak.*

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:39 PM

So cute

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:40 PM

Proceed to create a self-sufficient Defiant copy

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:40 PM

Mhm

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:40 PM

https://youtu.be/wZcYn12Nds0

Techplant

How To Grow A Mango Tree From Seed - EASY - With Results ( HD Macro )

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:40 PM

And then do it again with other cards Get a self-sufficient Dragon copy

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 04:41 PM

"Here. I hope they're not too big."

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:41 PM

ok, so, time to communicate with defiant

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:41 PM

Explain.

You mentioned a trading card.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:42 PM

ok he remembers

good

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:42 PM

sudden existential dread

not good

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:42 PM

he preserves continuity of consciousness

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:42 PM

but expected

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:43 PM

wym 'sudden existential dread' he seems pissed to me

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:43 PM

Mhm

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:43 PM

Beleive in the heart of the cards

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:43 PM

?? He just seemed terse to me

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:43 PM

he tends to get terse when angry, from what i recall

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 04:44 PM

"So, my power lets me empower objects and give them special abilities. I used it on a cape trading card, and..."

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:44 PM

He's terse all the time. He's still Colin Wallis even if he isn't armsmaster

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:44 PM

Like Dauntless?

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:44 PM

Yes

Like him

But better

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:44 PM

no, he can be joke-y sometimes, even go off on rants when feeling cocky

see: leviathan fight

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:45 PM

cocky is not his normal state though, especially after leviathan fight

and especally not when he might be summoned by a trading card

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:46 PM

id also point to talks with dragon, or his first interaction with taylor for examples of lessened terseness

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 04:46 PM

"Yyyyyeah, kinda like Dauntless."

Unready_Access | Emma

We're getting off-topic.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:46 PM

^^^

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:46 PM

yea

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:46 PM

Thank you.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:47 PM

I'll derail later when not dealing with babu Colin

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:47 PM

I don't have trading cards. We didn't give the legal rights to the company.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:48 PM

armsmaster misprint

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:48 PM

Mhm

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 04:48 PM

"It was an Armsmaster card that was misprinted green."

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:48 PM

That has to be insulting lol

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:48 PM

"..."

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:48 PM

anne's power said it was legendary

very potent

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:48 PM

Mhm, super rare

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:49 PM

The only difference between armsmaster and defiant is GREEN

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:49 PM

pft

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 04:49 PM

"I grabbed it since my power rated it as 'Legendary' rarity, which is the only thing I've seen above a few rares."

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:50 PM

The legendary misprint

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:51 PM

Oh my god he's swinging his legs

Babey

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:51 PM

Ha

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:51 PM

I want one

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:51 PM

Be jealous.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:52 PM

I swing my legs too if my chairs are big enough lol Unfortunately that almost never happens anymore

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:52 PM

I get nervous if my feet aren't planted on the ground.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:52 PM

fair

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:53 PM

Legy swing gang let's gooooo

randomperson44 ↩️

Reply to: I swing my legs too if my chairs are big enough lol Unfortunately that almost never happens anymore

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct

I get nervous if my feet aren't planted on the ground.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:54 PM

Basically the only time it still happens is when I'm sitting in a tree or something So this method is impossible to you

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 04:54 PM

"As far as we can tell, the card has the power to turn someone or something into you for 10 minutes or so a day."

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:54 PM

Yeah, my leg swinging days are over

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:54 PM

Just 10 minutes?

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:55 PM

F

Malaki ↩️

Reply to: Yeah, my leg swinging days are over

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:55 PM

its not hard capped as far as we can tell yet, but

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:55 PM

Yes

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:55 PM

Yup, could get longer

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:55 PM

...thought: what if it increases to an hour every 10 charges once you hit 60 minutes

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:55 PM

Hmmm, wat if you combo cards together

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 04:55 PM

"Yeah, but I'm going to be adding more charges over time."

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:56 PM

im not sure comboing cards is possible

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 04:56 PM

We don't have enough cards over 10 charges to tell how power increases.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:56 PM

indications imply the card thing is just an inventory system/way of tracking charges

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:56 PM

As much as I wish this was Pick a Card or Aces and Jokers, it isn't.

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:57 PM

"..."

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:57 PM

Still not sure if this is a linear growth or not

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

How was Aegis alive? Why is there a dome over the city?

Malaki 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

Oh, do you have a card case?

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

Oh right he's later in the timeline

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

Okay now explain the whole situation in five minutes

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

Mhm

Time travel is possible Bitch

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

Yup. Grabbed that and some card sleeves.

Malaki ↩️

Reply to: Oh, do you have a card case?

Lucky_Plucky21 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

And multiverse theory is even a bigger bitch

Awake 21-Feb-21 04:58 PM

Its pre-leviathan and you're baby now

Best explanation, one sentence

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:59 PM

assuming it has the potential to upgrade how much time per charge it is via charging it to an hour at the 60 minute mark, 290 would be the max number of charges needed

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 04:59 PM

"On the 14th of May 2011, a dome appeared over Brockton Bay. Nothing can get in or out."

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 04:59 PM

i think

my math could be bad

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:00 PM

Now here's a good question. Is he end-of-Worm Defiant or still during Worm?

Unless I'm dumb and thats already been surmised

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 05:00 PM

"It's currently the 19th of May, 2011."

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:00 PM

i mean you could prolly eyeball it from his cybernetics, maybe

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 05:00 PM

It's the past?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:00 PM

he's at least got enough that his combat prediction programming works easily

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:00 PM

No it's the present

Timetravel is a bitch

Multiverse theory is a bigger bitch

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:01 PM

that means brain implants that let him use combat analysis software, maybe

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:01 PM

Just be flat-out that you know how things end, might get points with him

And hes tied to your powers anyways

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:01 PM

yeah

Emma BOT 21-Feb-21 05:02 PM

"Yes. When exactly are you from?"

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 05:08 PM

November 2013.

I'm running out of time.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:09 PM

Yup, see you tomorrow cutey

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 05:09 PM

"See you tomorrow."

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:09 PM

well, that was tense

a lil at least

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:10 PM

But anyway He's not even just defiant He's post-gold morning defiant

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:10 PM

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 05:10 PM

Will you use your power to let me stay longer?

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:10 PM

Yeah, that's an important fact

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:10 PM

I've decided, we dumping all the charges into Defiant so he can inhabit the tiny golem indefinitely

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:11 PM

as nice as that'd be, not getting killed is a little more appealing

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:11 PM

Okay tiny defiant is adorable but

Finding a larger body is better

Hed be more useful

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 05:12 PM

So, do I add charges to him tomorrow? How many?

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:12 PM

No, smol Defiant is good culture

5

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 05:12 PM

5 works.

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:12 PM

Yeah you need some for costume this time

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:12 PM

^^^

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 05:12 PM

5 Defiant, then up to 7 costume.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:13 PM

Mhm

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 05:13 PM

Maybe 5 costume, 2 arclance?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:13 PM

that works

bring the arclance up to 9

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:13 PM

Yeah cause arclance already has some charges

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:13 PM

(man the notes need some updatin lol)

Pika 21-Feb-21 05:13 PM

(Eeyup.)

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:14 PM

Maybe day after 2morrow we start puting more secret charges in ur various electicity producers

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 05:14 PM

That sounds like a plan.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:15 PM

tomorrow is probably protectorate day where, if the secret thing works, you register the team

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:15 PM

Mhm

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:16 PM

and make introductions to new wave

Anne BOT 21-Feb-21 05:16 PM

"That's the plan. I'll add 5 charges tomorrow, which should be an extra 5 minutes, I think?"

Defiant BOT 21-Feb-21 05:17 PM

Thank y

". . ."

Unregistered BOT 21-Feb-21 05:17 PM

*Squeak?*

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:17 PM

Bye bye little one

Anyways smol Defiant can be useful, like Azmuth from Ben 10

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 05:18 PM

Ideally, I'll be able to make a bigger golem soon.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:18 PM

Smol grumpy and usefull

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:18 PM

big defiant can actually do something in a fight

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:19 PM

Did we ever test a golem with a boosted gem?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:19 PM

no, but we may be able to now

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:19 PM

Smol defiant can make a suit to pilot that is just as useful

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:19 PM

Smol defiant in general isnt as useful

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:19 PM

Cowards!

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:20 PM

im sorry, i actually want the team to have the most advantages it can possibly get in the face of echidna

do you not?

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:21 PM

That isnt wat im suggesting, since a suit piloted by smol defiant can actually fit more gadgets than a full sized defiant (edited)

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:21 PM

we dont have room for joke-y wastes of power, not with all the mounting threats and options liable to destroy everything in the dome

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:21 PM

I'm with Hours on this

We need a full size defiant

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:21 PM

I am too

For one thing Defiant is half suit already

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:21 PM

maybe, but he accomplishes the same effect with cybernetics, and would generally be less vulnerable to getting taken out by a single hit to a lucky spot

organic squishy bits can carry you through a disaster after all

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:22 PM

Yeah

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:22 PM

Wat other cards do we have

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:22 PM

And tech can only help so far

Small defiant means more tech repair cost in supplies

Which are limited because of the dome

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:23 PM

besides, keeping him trapped forever in a miniscule form would be kind of violating to his rights as a person - nonconsentual augmentation

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:24 PM

Putting him in anybody is violating his rights, since he was never given a choice as to what size he is

You'd have to ask wat size he wants to be

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:24 PM

you're explicitly saying 'stuff him in a tiny thing repeatedly to keep him tiny'

whole different beast there

Malaki

You'd have to ask wat size he wants to be

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:24 PM

We can do that. Easily. And he's probably going to say normal size.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:24 PM

^^^

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:24 PM

I'm saying that a smol body can be benificial and i prefer smol defiant (edited)

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:25 PM

we're saying it's not and that we don't

1

the costs vastly outweigh any benefits, from resources to ability to do anything on a practical scale, and he'd probably not be fond of it

we can stick him in a normal size golem once UA's made one

aint that hard

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:26 PM

What if that does not fix the speech issue though

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:26 PM

why would it not fix the speech issue

if you cite anatomy, he would be effectively lobotomized as mini defiant

that aint how it worked tho

current theory was the size causing issues

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:27 PM

I thought he could only squeak because the golem could only squeak It's not really anatomy, but more a translation of available functions It's not like small children can't talk

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:28 PM

Wasnt this defiant made from a rat?

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:28 PM

From a golem.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:28 PM

no, it was made from a tiny golem i believe

Awake 21-Feb-21 05:28 PM

Ah

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:28 PM

It prolly wont fix the ability to speak, squeaking seems to be the golem constant

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:28 PM

still, by that logic he'd have been completely under UA's control

or had CPP's power

he would've noticed that, pretty clearly in fact

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:29 PM

Tbf he only had 10 min in that body

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:29 PM

Okay then. Explain to me how it's only a size issue, while also explaining why this issue does not stop children from speaking.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:30 PM

And was occupied

Also toddlers can speak

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:30 PM

shrunken vocal cords - he looked like adult defiant in a miniature form

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:30 PM

Naw

That's cap

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:30 PM

could be all his words sounded like squeaks due to size

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:30 PM

what

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:30 PM

unable to produce sufficient volume

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:30 PM

Hours is capping

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:31 PM

its like how you dont expect a rat to be audible in an auditorium

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:31 PM

Imma say right here and now, if he had human anatomy he wouldve been able to speak

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:31 PM

tiny voice box, and defiant was, what, 6 inches?

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:31 PM

They were not in a fkin auditorium

and no

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:31 PM

He was toddler size

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:31 PM

im not saying he wasn't speaking, im sayin it sounded like squeaks

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:31 PM

defiant was toddler sized

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:32 PM

Golems just literally cant speak

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:32 PM

i dont get how it could've been a 'translation of functions' without other stuff bleeding over

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:32 PM

Power BS. Sometimes you just have to accept it.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:32 PM

fucking superpowers

well, let's just hope this huge ass argument hasnt jinxed anything

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:34 PM

Hopefully bigger golems will just straight up have working vocal chords

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:34 PM

the golems are made of weird shadowy bullshit i thought

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:34 PM

And the point will be moot

I'm not sure how that precludes them having vocal chords They're obviously solid.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:35 PM

robots dont have vocal chords but they can speak

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:35 PM

Idk bigger golems might just make more brassy and less squeaky sounds

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:35 PM

id expect the power to take shortcuts rather than faking a whole ass anatomical model

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:35 PM

Point

Then, I hope the big golems just straight up have a vocal imitation system capable of speech.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:36 PM

i just hope defiant's able to speak regardless of whatever power bullshit this is

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:37 PM

Yeah, would make communication in a fight hard if he can't speak

Hey what do you think happens if you give him a discord phone or laptop he already knows the plot of Worm, having lived it

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:38 PM

honestly i wouldnt be shocked if he tried to operate on himself to bypass that arbitrary limitation

what do you think happens if you give him a discord phone? itd p much just mean he's able to chat with us

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:40 PM

Well yeah But he wouldn't have to waste time writing And it has a telepathic communication

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:40 PM

...can you mix a cheap phone with one of the golems?

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:40 PM

no, we cant mix things

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:40 PM

They checked?

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:40 PM

Mix it manually, with tape

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:41 PM

i give up

malaki, to answer your question, it's been pretty thoroughly confirmed that no aspects of CPP's power mix, and UA's power only works on gemstones

in that case, it'd transform the screen, but probably break the phone

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:43 PM

Actually, UA said 'semi-precious stones' not gemstones I'm wondering what the lower boundary is But yeah other than that it seems about right.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:43 PM

Aight wasnt aware thay they already tried and failed to combine stuff

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:43 PM

it's come up enough as something that doesnt work, yea

if i had to guess, its based on UA's perception of what is precious and what isnt

like how taylor's power works on all 'creepy crawlies'

including some crabs and stuff

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:44 PM

So prolly not quartz, but rubies and sapphires

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:44 PM

no, it works on quartz

they were in the knockoff fight

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:45 PM

...huh

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:45 PM

that's a point towards precious

so, and i cannot stress this enough, nobody talk about what sorts of gems aren't precious

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:45 PM

Whats a common precious stone

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:46 PM

quartz lol

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:46 PM

I was thinking of diamomds

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:46 PM

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=lOUxYOP2Npa1tAbo3qmoCA&q=common+semi+precious+stones&oq=common+semi+precious+stones&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyAggAMgYIABAFEB4yBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzoHCAAQRxCwAzoECAAQDToICAAQBxAFEB5Qg0pYr01gjlBoAXACeACAAeYBiAHyBZIBBTEuNC4xmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBCMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjjkI3rlfruAhWWGs0KHWhvCoUQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

it works at a semi precious level

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:47 PM

Diamonds aren't that common Mostly because diamond cartels, but they aren't that common

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:47 PM

what im wondering is if it works on bismuth crystals

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:47 PM

Not a stone

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:48 PM

it could, cause im getting the feeling it works on 'crystal' type stuff

above a certain threshold anyways

and bismuth is pretty

which might help with the personal bias thing

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:48 PM

Not really a good choice anyways, melts too easily (edited)

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:49 PM

fair

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:49 PM

Like melt it on the stove kinda easy

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:49 PM

Bismuth crystal looks like eldritch rainbow squares rather than a semiprecious stone

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:50 PM

coughs in opal

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:50 PM

opal just looks kinda shimmery. still has a normal shapes.

(pika has vanished with no brb) (it's around dinnertime and stuff for them i think) (but i do not like)

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:51 PM

Pearls might be a good choice

Easier to get and to harvest

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:52 PM

maybe, assuming the ecology of the bay hasnt been 100% fucked over and everything in it aint dead

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:54 PM

maybe if there was a pearl farm already set up, otherwise no i've actually watched a documentary on getting natural pearls and it is not "easier to get" in any way For one thing, most natural pearl oysters don't even have pearls And of the ones that do, most are tiny shitty pearls

Malaki 21-Feb-21 05:54 PM

From wat UA said about the local river, they get salmon

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:54 PM

If there's no pearl farm already there, it would be way easier to get gems by robbing rich people houses

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:55 PM

turning to crime seems like it could be a bad option

especially since we wanna be heroes

emma's prolly got plenty of jewelry anyways

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:56 PM

true

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:56 PM

and asking for donations once you're established is viable

or getting defiant to home grow em with tinker bullshit once he's got a more consistent presence

specifically tinkertech bullshit, we dont wanna take that slow

randomhuman44 21-Feb-21 05:57 PM

I didn't say it was a good option Only that it's a better option than getting a diving gear and stuff in order to get 0-2 good pearls per day of of completely exhausting work

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 05:58 PM

point

we dont have diving gear anyways, so thats an issue with the 'harvest natural pearls' idea (edited)

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:41 PM

https://youtu.be/_e4PVA7Hc9E

Natural Ways

Stop Buying Compost. Perfect Way To Make Your Own Compost At Home

Pika 21-Feb-21 06:45 PM

(Sorry, I was caught by surprise and didn't have time to leave a 'brb'.)

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:45 PM

(Thats fine)

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 06:45 PM

Oh yeah, I have a compost bin at my real home.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:46 PM

Yeah, you need to start composting a whole lot now to boost soil quality and moisture retention

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 06:47 PM

On it.

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:47 PM

I'm pretty sure Kenny's power skips a lot of that.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:47 PM

It's for after he grows the plant Oh UA is hemp legal on Earth Bet?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:47 PM

I feel like the soil wouldn't like it if the plants were actually drawing from it instead of his power.

It isn't. Not even non-weed hemp.

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 06:48 PM

Boo!

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:48 PM

Also having good water retention in the soil is good in general (edited)

pokienote | Kenny | Conserve BOT 21-Feb-21 06:48 PM

i dont like water

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:48 PM

kenny's power skips water requirements

ChillyPepperPopper | Anne | Concept BOT 21-Feb-21 06:48 PM

I'll start the compost anyway. Shouldn't take too long.

It's better than throwing food waste out in the trash, either way.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:49 PM

it skips a lot of requirements actually considering a chunk of downtown got turned into a jungle

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:49 PM

Trash buildup is going to be a problem eventually, isn't it. Fuck.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:49 PM

incinerators

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

Point.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

The USA must be wasting stupid amounts of money importing their hemp products then

Incenerators leaves CO poisoning

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

we dont use hemp products for a lot of stuff as far as im aware

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

No, they just straight-up don't use hemp products.

It's silly.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

Burlap

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

the air is recycled malaki

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

Since when?

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:50 PM

Not even for burlap. They use plastic instead.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:51 PM

/help

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:51 PM

Taps

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Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:51 PM

Canvas?

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 06:51 PM

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Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:52 PM

is air quality ever likely to get to be a problem in the dome from normal use of tech/equipment, assuming all could be used at an equivalent rate to the outside world? (edited)

Unready_Access | Emma | Construct BOT 21-Feb-21 06:52 PM

We have canvas, but I don't know what it's made of.

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:52 PM

Canvas is usually a hemp product

Server BOT 21-Feb-21 06:53 PM

Air can pass into the dome, where it's refreshed.

Limina Idling | Hours 21-Feb-21 06:53 PM

oxygen is a nonissue then

Malaki 21-Feb-21 06:53 PM

Oooh wait no, thats cotton sorry